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Fortunately, Feser doesn’t do that.

VeryTas wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:05 pm

Gandalf the Grey wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:03 am We can both agree that human dignity is of its nature of more value than most any other created thing, that it is tremendous and immense, and by grace even eternal.
But there is an entire difference between eternal and infinite.and it's not something that you can just gloss over because of some inordinate desire to improve people's self-esteem. It's bad enough that there pervasion of moral and philosophical subjectivism has given too many modern people then tendency to already act-out the belief that they're essentially gods, the Catholic Church doesn't need to be adding to that pathology.

I am going only slightly off topic here. You hear people say, "I will be eternally grateful (if)..." They of course mean very grateful (and will remember the favor for a long time). I never presume to put it that way, even if I am very grateful. What if in heaven it were God's will that certain good things that happened on earth be forgotten?

I've even heard people colloquially say that they'd be "infinitely grateful" and of course given the context you know what they're saying and by extension what they're not (or can't).

But my problem is that this is a supposed to be a Magisterial document coming from a professed theologian. Basic prudence dictates that the language and terms used ought to be selected with the utmost concern for accuracy and clarity. Such colloquialisms in such a document are as absurd as if they decided to use modern slang from the Urban dictionary because they wanted to appeal to the younger generations. It looks like cheap and obvious attempts at pandering rather than a serious attempt to describe eternal realities.

As to your question at the end of your post, I have no doubt that there objective goods that God definitely wills for us to set aside and forget about in the next life. Jesus makes it quite certain that marriage(and divorce)is to be done away with when He says in Matthew's Gospel that, "In the Resurrection they will neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels." I certainly don't think that it will be limited to just that.

Doom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:37 pm

gherkin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:54 am

peregrinator wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:39 am

On the contrary his criticisms of Pope Francis are very measured, mild even.

Agree. Feser's not some kind of knee jerk anti-Francis crusader. Quite the contrary. But he is a philosopher, so he has a strong negative reaction to careless, sloppy talk, especially when it comes from places of some authority and tends to mislead.

Maybe but there is something childish and petty about nitpicking every little thing.

I've never read Feser being nitpicky. Rather, he tends to be more charitable than most staunch Catholics when it comes to Francis.

But on this point, Feser isn't mistaken....and he's certainly not when it comes to the death penalty. Words mean things.