Mostly Peaceful

[Stella]

Have there been any reports of why a Democrat would target Democrats? That sounds like an irrational dynamic.

[zeno]

The rumor on his motives is

https://www.newsweek.com/vance-boelter- ... on-2085581

What To Know
Just days before the fatal shooting, Hortman provided the sole Democratic vote in Minnesota's lower chamber to pass a Republican bill that would strip adult undocumented migrants of state-funded healthcare. The bill passed the House in a 68-65 vote, with Hortman's vote helping Republicans secure its passage, which left Hortman in tears.

And

Minnesota State Patrol (MSP) said they had found "No Kings" flyers in the suspect's car, and the "No Kings" protests across the state have been cancelled.

[anawim]

The reason that left wing Democrats attack Democrats is precisely because they ARE irrational.

[Doom]

Have there been any reports of why a Democrat would target Democrats? That sounds like an irrational dynamic.

Gee, I don't know, why did Stalin, a communist, kill so many of his fellow communists? Why did Robespierre, a Jacobin, kill so many of his fellow Jacobins? Because the further you go to the left, not only more violent do you go, but also more intolerant of dissent within your own ranks do you become. Ideological purges of alleged "traitors" or "counterrevolutionaries" within your own ranks constitute 95% of left-wing violence.

The mentality becomes "If you don't agree with me 100% of the time, you are my enemy". This is why left-wing governments and left-wing organizations collapse, because they become consumed with attacking each other. This Is what happened to the Black Panthers, the Students for a Democratic Society and a dozen other left-wing organizations.

The left always eats its own, always. That is why there is nothing funnier than watching a Democratic primary contest, especially in a far-left place like San Francisco, because the debate always degenerates into a civil war as they fight over the issue of who is further to the left. And the thing is, not matter how far left you are, there is always someone further to the left who will accuse you of being a closet conservative.

There is really nothing comparable to this on the right.

[Highlander]

I am pleased to point out that the "mostly peaceful" phrase is passing from public discourse. I am now hearing "almost completely peaceful" and "largely peaceful" replacing it. Well, it had to be done. As various villains were mocking the commonly used and completely accurate "mostly peaceful".

I am also pleased that the precise and descriptive phrase "escalate" is being increasingly used. Such as when horrible ICE agents attempt to defend themselves and escalated the situation. Or when curfew breakers are arrested by police who are clearly escalating the incident. Next these heinous actors will attempt to prevent arson, escalating an issue where the almost entirely peaceful arsonists are only trying to have some needed light and warmth.

[zeno]

I wonder why we aren't hearing much about the group that stormed the Capitol. Seems like that sort of behavior elicited some serious book throwing treatment in the not so distant past. Hmm.

[Stella]

Have there been any reports of why a Democrat would target Democrats? That sounds like an irrational dynamic.

There is really nothing comparable to this on the right.

"Friends and former colleagues interviewed by AP described Boelter as a devout Christian who attended an evangelical church and went to campaign rallies for President Donald Trump. Records show Boelter registered to vote as a Republican while living in Oklahoma in 2004 before moving to Minnesota where voters don’t list party affiliation."

As I contend, there's violent characters in both extremes of politics.

[zeno]

That conclusion seems a bit premature. He is known to be an evangelical who is strongly pro life, yes, but he, again, also had "No Kings" material on him. Regardless of what his motives were his actions were obviously, glaringly wrong. If it comes down as retaliatory for the recent vote as some suspect I doubt we will hear much from the left.

And again, no one said there were no nut jobs in the extremes. On the left it isn't limited to a few crazy individuals. It's a hallmark of their movement, a major tool in their toolbox. That's undeniable.

[Doom]

That conclusion seems a bit premature. He is known to be an evangelical who is strongly pro life, yes, but he, again, also had "No Kings" material on him. Regardless of what his motives were his actions were obviously, glaringly wrong. If it comes down as retaliatory for the recent vote as some suspect I doubt we will hear much from the left.

And again, no one said there were no nut jobs in the extremes. On the left it isn't limited to a few crazy individuals. It's a hallmark of their movement, a major tool in their toolbox. That's undeniable.

Let's consider what we have seen in the last few years, not from a few fringe whackos, but people in the mainstream celebrities and elected Democrats:

Corey Booker said he would like to punch Trump

Joe Biden threatened to beat Trump up

Maxine Waters called for the harassment and intimidation of Republicans to drive them out of the public sphere

Snoop Dog made a video of himself assassinating Trump

Kathy Griffin posed with a severed head of Trump

Madonna said we need to blow up the White House

AOC calls ICE agents Nazis and refuses to condemn violent assaults on and even murder of ICE agents

Chuck Schumer threatened Brett Kavanaugh during a rally on the steps of the Capitol Building

Kamala Harris made several comments comparing Trump to Hitler, and after the assassination attempt last year, said that it was Trump's fault for "extreme rhetoric.", but somehow her own rhetoric isn't extreme at all

[Doom]

Isn't it crazy that in California, it is illegal to smoke tobacco on the beach, but you can legally smoke pot, and it is legal to set police cars on fire, and commit grand-scale shoplifting of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of merchandise.

[zeno]

It's a mad mad world.

[Doom]

It's a mad mad world.

There was a bit of a hoax on Facebook where they showed the police arresting a guy and the headline said “Newsom cracks down on Rioters” but it was actually a photo from 2020 of a surfer being arrested for violating the COVID lockdown

[zeno]

Also one of the Golden Gate bridge supposedly so full of no kings protestors that it bent slightly under the weight that actually was taken in 1987 during an anniversary celebration for the bridge. Especially with AI you can't believe everything you see and hear.

[Doom]

Also one of the Golden Gate bridge supposedly so full of no kings protestors that it bent slightly under the weight that actually was taken in 1987 during an anniversary celebration for the bridge. Especially with AI you can't believe everything you see and hear.

Except in the case I am referring to it was deliberate to make the point of Newsom’s priorities, rioters burn down the state and he doesn't care, refuse to follow his fascist COVID policies and he turns into a Nazi.

James Wood played a prank on Newsom, posting riot footage from 2020 with the comment “look how bad Los Angeles has gotten” and Newsom responded “that footage is from 2020”, proving Wood’s point of how bad a governor Newsom is, multiple riots under his watch and he does nothing.

Do you know he sued Trump for calling in The National Guard to stop the riots? He doesn't want the riots stopped, they are too politically useful for him.

[zeno]

Oh yes I know about the lawsuit. The only thing that has surprised me about how it is progressing is how quickly the 9th circuit(!) slapped down the initial ruling. Headlines went from "Newsom won!" to crickets in about 3 hours.

[Doom]

Oh yes I know about the lawsuit. The only thing that has surprised me about how it is progressing is how quickly the 9th circuit(!) slapped down the initial ruling. Headlines went from "Newsom won!" to crickets in about 3 hours.

There really is no legal or constitutional case against what Trump has done. Not only has it been done by numerous presidents before, including Eisenhower, who federalized the Arkansas National Guard to enforce desegregation in Little Rock, and by George HW Bush during the 1992 riots, but the authority to do this is inherent in the President's authority as Commander in Chief. Unless the courts are going to declare that the Constitution itself is unconstitutional, and I wouldn't put it past them, Trump's court victory over Newscum (as Trump calls him) is pretty much guaranteed.

And note this: why is it that there is never any question how a liberal judge is going to rule, ever before he hears the evidence, but conservative judges are unpredictable swing votes that could go either way depending on the evidence?

Why, it seems as if Democrats appoint the judges they know will act as a rubber stamp to liberal desires, but Republicans appoint judges who will follow the evidence and the law. That can't be right, can it?

[Highlander]

...Democrats:

Corey Booker said he would like to punch Trump

Joe Biden threatened to beat Trump up

Maxine Waters called for the harassment and intimidation of Republicans to drive them out of the public sphere

Snoop Dog made a video of himself assassinating Trump

Kathy Griffin posed with a severed head of Trump

Madonna said we need to blow up the White House

AOC calls ICE agents Nazis and refuses to condemn violent assaults on and even murder of ICE agents

Chuck Schumer threatened Brett Kavanaugh during a rally on the steps of the Capitol Building

Kamala Harris made several comments comparing Trump to Hitler, and after the assassination attempt last year, said that it was Trump's fault for "extreme rhetoric.", but somehow her own rhetoric isn't extreme at all

Whoa! That was well done.

[Highlander]

...a photo from 2020 of a surfer being arrested...

OK, that does it! When you start arresting surfers, then democracy has perished and the Apocalypse is nigh.

[Highlander]

To the observation that the Left employs lawfare as a tactic to slow, disrupt, and impose an undemocratic result upon the body politic -- why is there any surprise? I again point to the Leninist/Stalinist model. The march through the courts. Soros funded groups. And the CCP.

[Doom]

I point to the irony that the left cries "No Kings" after three consecutive rigged primaries, followed by just handing the nomination to Kamala Harris, who never won a single primary or got a single vote, and after an unsuccessful attempt to remove Trump from the ballot.